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Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:22
από Nero
Η Χρονιά είναι 1528. 2 χρόνια πριν οι Οθωμανοί είχαν ισοπεδώσει το βασίλειο του Αγίου στεφάνου και χτύπαγαν την πόρτα της αγίας Ρωμαικής αυτοκρατορίας. Δυστυχώς για την αυτοκρατορία είχε την ίδια περίοδο να αντιμετωπίσει ένα άλλο μεγάλο πρόβλημα: του προτεστάντες

το παρακάτω κείμενο είναι το on "war against the turk" του Λούθηρου στο οποίο καλεί σε εγρήγορση εναντίων της οθωμανικής απειλής..με μερικούς αστερίσκους :)
Certain persons have been begging me for the past five years to write about war against the Turks, and encourage our people and stir them up to it, and now that the Turk is actually approaching, my friends are compelling me to do this duty, especially since there are some stupid preachers among us Germans (as I am sorry to hear) who are making the people believe that we ought not and must not fight against the Turks. Some are even so crazy as to say that it is not proper for Christians to bear the temporal sword or to be rulers; also because our German people are such a wild and uncivilized folk that there are some who want the Turk to come and rule. All the blame for this wicked error among the people is laid on Luther and must be called “the fruit of my Gospel,” just as I must bear the blame for the rebellion, and for everything bad that happens anywhere in the world.
Αυτοί οι "ηλίθιοι" που επικαλείται ο Μαρτίνος που ζητάνε να στήσουν κώλο στους τούρκους είναι ο ίδιος ο Λούθηρος,μερικά χρόνια πριν :smt005:
Pope Leo the Tenth, in the bull in which he put me under the ban, condemned, among other statements, the following one. I had said that “to fight against the Turk is the same thing as resisting God, who visits our sin upon us with this rod.” From this article they may get it, who say that I prevent and dissuade from war against the Turk. I still confess freely that this article is mine and that I put it forth and defended it at the time; and if things in the world were in the same state now that they were in then, I would still have to put it forth and defend it. But it is not fair to forget how things then stood in the world, and what my grounds and reasons were, and still keep my words and apply them to another situation where those grounds and reasons do not exist. With this kind of art, who could not make the Gospel a pack of lies or pretend that it contradicted itself?

This was the state of things at that time – no one had taught, no one had heard, and no one knew anything about temporal government, whence it came, what its office and work was, or how it ought to serve God. The most learned men (I shall not name them) held temporal government for a heathen, human, ungodly thing, as though it were perilous to salvation to be in the ranks of the rulers. Therefore, the priests and monks had so driven kings and princes into the corner, as to persuade them that, to serve God, they must undertake other works, such as hearing mass, saying prayers, endowing masses, etc. In a word, princes and lords who wanted to be pious men held their rank and office as of no value and did not consider it a service of God. They became really priests and monks, except that they did not wear tonsures and cowls. If they would serve God, they must go to church. All the lords then living would have to testify to this, for they knew it by experience. My gracious lord, Duke Frederick, of blessed memory, was so glad when I first wrote On Temporal Government, that he had the little book copied out and put in a special binding, and was happy that he could see what his position was before God.

Thus the pope and the clergy were, at that time, all in all, over all, and through all, like God in the world, and the temporal rulers were in darkness, oppressed and unknown. But the pope and his crowd wanted to be Christians, too, and therefore pretended to make war on the Turk. Over those two points the discussion arose, for I was then working on doctrine that concerned Christians and the conscience, and had as yet written nothing about the temporal rulers. The papists, therefore, called me a flatterer of the princes, because I was dealing only with the spiritual class, and not with the temporal; just as they call me seditious, now that I have written in such glorification of temporal government as no teacher has done since the days of the apostles, except, perhaps, St. Augustine. Of this I can boast with a good conscience and the testimony of the world will support me.
Κομανέτσι :003:
In this connection, the people should be told of all the dissolute life and ways that the Turk practices, so that they may the better feel the need of prayer. To be sure, it has often disgusted me and still does, that neither our great lords nor our scholars have been at any pains to give us any certain knowledge about the life of the Turks in the two classes, spiritual and temporal; and yet he has come so near to us. For it is said that they too have chapters and monasteries. Some indeed have invented outrageous lies about the Turks in order to stir up us Germans against them, but there is no need for lies; the truth is all too great. :smt047 I will tell my dear Christians a few things, so far as I know the real truth, so that they may the better be moved and stirred up to pray earnestly against the enemy of Christ our Lord.
These three points I have wanted to mention. I am sure of them from the Koran of the Turks. What I have heard beside I will not bring forward, because I cannot be sure about it. Suppose, then, that there are some Christians among the Turks; suppose that some of them are monks; suppose that some are honorable laymen; even then, what good can there be in the government and the whole Turkish way of life, when according to their Koran these three things rule among them; namely, lying, murder, and disregard of marriage, and besides, everyone must keep Christian truth quiet and dare not rebuke or try to reform these three points, but must look on and consent to them, as I fear, at least so far as to be silent? How can there be a more horrible, dangerous, terrible imprisonment than a life under such a government? Lies destroy the spiritual estate, murder the temporal, disregard of marriage the estate of matrimony. Now take out of the world veram religionem, veram politiam, veram oeconomiam, i.e., true spiritual life, true temporal government, and true conduct of the home; what is left in the world, but flesh, world and devil? A life there is like the life of the “good fellows” who keep house with harlots.

It is said, indeed, that the Turks are, among themselves, faithful and friendly and careful to tell the truth. I believe that, and I think that they probably have more fine virtues in them than that. No man is so bad that there is not something good in him. Now and then a woman of the streets has good qualities that scarcely ten honorable matrons have. So the devil would have a cloak and be a fair angel, an angel of light; therefore he hides behind certain works, that are works of the light. Murderers and robbers are more faithful and friendly to each other than neighbors are, nay, more so than many Christians. For if the devil keeps the three things – lies, murder, and disregard of marriage – as the real foundation of hell, he can easily tolerate, nay, help, that fleshly love and faithfulness shall be built upon it, as precious stones (though they are nothing but hay and straw), though he knows well that nothing of them will remain through the fire. f123 On the other hand, where true faith, true government, true marriage are, he tries earnestly that little love and fidelity may appear and little be shown, so that he can put the foundation to shame and have it despised.

What is more, when the Turks go into battle their war-cry is no other word than “Allah! Allah!” and they shout it till heaven and earth resound. But in the Arabic language Allah means God, and is a corruption of the Hebrew Eloha. For they have taught in the Koran that they shall boast constantly with these words, “There is no God but God.” All that is really a device of the devil. For what is it to say, “There is no God but God” without distinguishing one God from another? The devil, too, is a god and they honor him with this word; of that there is no doubt. In just the same way the pope’s soldiers cry “Ecclesia! Ecclesia!” To be sure: the devil’s ecclesia! Therefore I believe that the Turks’ Allah does more in war than they themselves. He gives them courage and wiles, guides sword and fist, horse and man. What do you think, then, of the holy people who can call upon God in battle, and yet destroy Christ and all God’s words and works, as you have heard?
It is part of the Turks’ holiness, also, that they tolerate no images or pictures and are even holier than our destroyers of images. For our destroyers tolerate, and are glad to have, images on gulden, groschen, rings, and ornaments; but the Turk tolerates none of them and stamps nothing but letters on his coins. He is entirely Muenzerian, too, for he overthrows all rulers and tolerates no gradations of government, such as princes, counts, lords, nobles and other feudatories; but he alone is lord over all in his own land, and what he gives out is only pay, never property or rights of rulership. He is also a papist; for he believes that he will become holy and be saved by works, and thinks it no sin to overthrow Christ, lay government waste, and destroy marriage. All these things the pope also works at, though in other ways, with hypocrisy, while the Turk uses force and the sword. In a word, as has been said, it is the very dregs of all abominations and errors.

All this I have wanted to tell to the first man, namely, the community of Christians, so that he may know and see how much need there is for prayer, and how we must first smite the Turk’s Allah, that is, his god, the devil, and strike down his power and godhead; otherwise, I fear, the sword will accomplish little. For this man is not to fight in a bodily way with the Turk, as the pope and his followers teach, nor resist him with the fist, but recognize the Turk as God’s rod and anger, which Christians must either suffer, if God visits their sins upon them, or fight against and drive away with repentance, tears, and prayer. He who despises this counsel, let him despise it; I want to see what damage he will do the Turk.
And if the emperor were to destroy the unbelievers and non-Christians, he would have to begin with the pope, bishops, and clergy and perhaps not spare us, or himself; for there is enough horrible idolatry in his own empire to make it unnecessary for him to fight the Turks for this cause. Among us there are Turks, Jews, heathen, non-Christians, all too many of them, proving it with public false doctrine and with offensive, shameful lives. Let the Turk believe and live as he will, just as one lets the papacy and other false Christians live. The emperor’s sword has nothing to do with the faith; it belongs to physical, worldly things, if God is not to become angry with us. If we pervert His order and throw it into confusion, He, too, becomes perverse and throws us into confusion and all misfortune, as it is written, “With the perverse thou art perverse.” We can perceive and grasp this by means of the fortune we have heretofore had against the Turk. Think of all the heartbreak and misery that have been caused by the cruciata, by the indulgences and crusading-taxes, with which Christians have been stirred up to take the sword and fight the Turk, when they ought to have been fighting the devil and unbelief with the Word and with prayer.
Moreover, I hear it said that there are those in Germany who desire the coming of the Turk and his government, because they would rather be under the Turk than under the emperor or princes. It would be hard to fight against the Turk with such people. Against them I have no better advice to give than that pastors and preachers be exhorted to be diligent in their preaching and faithful in instructing such people, pointing out to them the danger they are in and the wrong that they are doing, how they are making themselves partakers of great and numberless sins and loading themselves down with them in the sight of God, if they are found in this opinion. For it is misery enough to be compelled to suffer the Turk as overlord and to endure his government; but willingly to put oneself under it, or to desire it, when one need not and is not compelled – the man who does that ought to be shown the sin he is committing and how terribly he is going on.

In the first place, these people are faithless and guilty of perjury to their rulers, to whom they have taken oaths and done homage; and this is in God’s sight a great sin that does not go unpunished. On account of such perjury the good king Zedekiah had to perish miserably, because he did not keep the oath that he gave to the heathen emperor at Babylon. Such people may think, or persuade themselves, that it is within their own power and choice to betake themselves from one lord to another, acting as though they were free to do or not to do what they pleased, forgetting and not remembering God’s commandment and their oath, by which they are in duty bound to be obedient, until they are forcibly compelled to abandon it or are put to death for it; as the peasants thought, in the recent rebellion, and were beaten because of it. For just as a man may not slay himself, but endure until he is forcibly slain by others, so no one should evade his obedience or his oath, unless he is released from it by others, either by force or by favor and permission. f130 The preachers must diligently impress this on such people; indeed their office of preaching compels them to do so, for it is their duty to warn their parishioners, and guard them against sin and harm to their souls. For one who willingly turns from his lord and takes the side of the Turk can never stay under the Turk with a good conscience, but his own heart will always speak to him and rebuke him thus – “See, you were faithless to your overlord and deprived him of the obedience that you owed him, and robbed him of his right to rule over you; now, no sin can be forgiven unless stolen goods are restored; but how shall you make restitution to your lord, when you are under the Turk and cannot make restitution. One of two things, then, must happen; – either you must toil and labor forever, trying to get away from the Turk and back to your overlord; or your conscience must forever suffer compunction, pain and unrest (if, indeed, it does not result in despair and everlasting death), because you submitted to the Turk willingly and without necessity, against your sworn duty. In the latter case you must be among the Turks with your body, but over on this side with your heart and conscience. What have you gained then? Why did you not stay on this side from the first?”
On the other hand, the pope is not much more godly than Mohammed and resembles him extraordinarily; for he, too, praises the Gospel with his lips, but holds that many things in it are too hard, and these things are the very ones that Mohammed and the Turks also consider too hard, such as those contained in Matthew 5:20. Therefore he interprets them, and makes of them consilia, i.e., “counsels,” which no one is bound to keep unless he desires to do so, as has been shamelessly taught at Paris, and in other universities, foundations, and monasteries. Therefore, too, he does not rule with the Gospel, or Word of God, but has made a new law and a Koran, viz., his decretals, and enforces them with the ban, as the Turk enforces his Koran with the sword; he even calls the ban his spiritual sword, though only the Word of God is that and should be called that ( Ephesians 6:17). Nevertheless, he uses the temporal sword also, when he can, or, at least, calls upon it, and urges and stirs up others to use it. And I am confident that if the pope could use the temporal sword as mightily as the Turk, he would perhaps lack the will to do so even less than the Turk and, indeed, they have often tried it.
What do our dear lords do? They take it for a mere jest. It is a fact that the Turk is at our throat, and even if he does not will to march against us this year, yet he is there, armed and ready any hour to attack us, when he will, and yet our princes discuss, meanwhile, how they can harass Luther and the Gospel. It is the Turk! Against it force must be used! It must be put out! That is what they are doing right now at Speyer, making the greatest ado about the eating of meat and fish, and foolishness like that.

God give you honor, you faithless heads of your poor people! What devil bids you occupy yourselves so violently with spiritual things, which are not committed to you, and be so lax and slothful in dealing with things that God has committed to you and that concern you and your poor people, now in the greatest and most pressing need, and thus be only hindering all those whose intentions are good and who would gladly do their part? Yes, go on singing and hearing the Mass of the Holy Spirit! He has great pleasure in it and will be very gracious to you disobedient, refractory fellows, because you let those things alone that he has committed to you, and work at what he has forbidden you! Yes, the Evil Spirit may hear you!

With this I have cleared my conscience. This book shall be my witness concerning the measure and the manner in which I advise war against the Turk. If any will proceed otherwise, let him proceed, win or lose. I shall not enjoy his victory and not pay for his defeat, but shall be innocent of all the blood that will be shed in vain. I know that this book will not make the Turk a gracious lord to me, if it comes before him; nevertheless, I have wished to tell my Germans the truth, so far as I know it, and give faithful counsel and service to the grateful and the ungrateful alike. If it helps, it helps; if it helps not, then may our dear Lord Jesus Christ help, and come down from heaven with the Last Judgment, and smite both Turk and pope to the earth, together with all tyrants and all the godless, and deliver us from all sins and from all evil. Amen.

http://www.lutherdansk.dk/On%20war%20ag ... error1.htm

Αυτό το τελευταίο με κάνει και πιστεύω ότι το λαμόγιο αυτό έκανε κωλοτούμπα όχι μόνο γιατί τον κατηγορούσαν σαν πεμπτοφαλλαγίτη αλλά ήλπιζε ότι ένας καλός πόλεμος με τους τούρκους θα αποδυνάμωνε τον πολιτικό του αντίπαλο,θα ελάφρυνε βάρος απο τις πλάτες των διωκομένων προτεσταντών,και αν έχανε θα έχανε και τη νομιμοποίησή του για να βγει μετά και να πει ότι "αφού ο αυτοκράτορας έχασε από τους άπιστους ο θεός σίγουρα δεν είναι μαζί του :P

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:36
από Yochanan
But it is not fair to forget how things then stood in the world, and what my grounds and reasons were, and still keep my words and apply them to another situation where those grounds and reasons do not exist.
Απίστευτα φρέσκο κείμενο. Θα μπορούσε να είχε γραφεί και σήμερα.

Στο πχώρουμ.

Από τον ΑρΩν.


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Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:40
από Nero
Yochanan έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 22:36
But it is not fair to forget how things then stood in the world, and what my grounds and reasons were, and still keep my words and apply them to another situation where those grounds and reasons do not exist.
Απίστευτα φρέσκο κείμενο. Θα μπορούσε να είχε γραφεί και σήμερα.

Στο πχώρουμ.

Από τον ΑρΩν.


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Ω ναι,περίμενε να φτάσουν κυριολεκτικά στα σύνορα για να κάνει 180. Και βέβαια το αρχολαμόγιο το είχε ξανακάνει λίγα χρόνια πριν! Οταν άφησε ξεκρέμαστους τους χωρικούς της Γερμανίας που εξεγέρθηκαν με παροτρύνσεις των οπαδών του και βασισμένοι στις δικές τους διδαχές. Του έγραφε νακ καθίσουν σ'αυγά τους κανένας δεν τους είπε ότι ο θεός ζητάει να ανατραπεί η έννομη τάξη...η συνέχεια γνωστή

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:44
από Nero
Και σε περίπτωση που δεν είναι προφανές,ας σημειώσουμε το ύπουλο γλύψιμο στους τούρκους. "Κακοί κακοί αλλά what about the pope" :smt047

για τους διαυλους επικοινωνίας θα γράψω αργότερα

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:47
από Yochanan
Nero έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 22:44
Και σε περίπτωση που δεν είναι προφανές,ας σημειώσουμε το ύπουλο γλύψιμο στους τούρκους. "Κακοί κακοί αλλά what about the pope" :smt047

για τους διαυλους επικοινωνίας θα γράψω αργότερα
:o:o:o πάει πολύ πίσω αυτη η φιλια λοιπόν!!! Δεν είχα ιδέα!

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 22:56
από Μαυροβασίλης
Nero έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 22:44
για τους διαυλους επικοινωνίας θα γράψω αργότερα
είναι σίγουρο πως δεν ήταν και τσαροκουνημένο;

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:06
από Nero
Μαυροβασίλης έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 22:56
Nero έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 22:44
για τους διαυλους επικοινωνίας θα γράψω αργότερα
είναι σίγουρο πως δεν ήταν και τσαροκουνημένο;
Υπό ποια έννοια? Την εποχή που η Μπετυ έκανε τα γλυκά μάτια στον Μουράτ 'Γ οι Ρώσοι ήταν ακόμα ασήμαντοι,την εποχή του Λούθηρου δε μια κουτσουλιά> Φυσικά συμμαχία ήταν θα έλεγα

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:11
από Μαυροβασίλης
σωστό- οι περιούσιοι τί θέση είχαν; η στάση απέναντι στον έντοκο δανεισμό ήταν σημαντικό θέμα

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:15
από Nero
Μαυροβασίλης έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 23:11
σωστό- οι περιούσιοι τί θέση είχαν; η στάση απέναντι στον έντοκο δανεισμό ήταν σημαντικό θέμα
Οι περιούσιοι βρήκαν καταφύγιο στην Οθωμανική αγκαλιά οπότε έκαναν μόκο. Την ίδια στιγμή που όταν είχαν καύλες οι καθολικοί έστηναν και ένα πογκρόμ για να περάσει η ώρα ο σουλτάνος άνοιγε τα σύνορα και τους έδινε εμπορικά προνόμια,κάπως έτσι έφτασε η μπουγατσουπολη να έχει πλειοψηφικό εβραϊκό πληθυσμό,δε φύτρωσαν

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:27
από Μαυροβασίλης
περισσότερο σκεφτόμουν την θεολογική επένδυση που πρόσφεραν οι πεμπτοφαλαγγίτες στους κεντροβορειοευρωπαίους μαμωνάδες

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:31
από Nero
Μαυροβασίλης έγραψε:
03 Ιουν 2018, 23:27
περισσότερο σκεφτόμουν την θεολογική επένδυση που πρόσφεραν οι πεμπτοφαλαγγίτες στους κεντροβορειοευρωπαίους μαμωνάδες
Ο Λούθηρος πάντως του σιχαίνονταν. Γενικά τα καταφύγια τους εκείνο τον καιρό ήταν ο Οθωμανία και η Πολωνολιθουανία,παραδόξως

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:36
από Dies Irae
Εικόνα

αλλά αυτοί

Εικόνα

έγιναν πιο περιούσιοι και από τους περιούσιους :D

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:37
από Μαυροβασίλης
ο πρόδρομος Χιους δεν πρέπει να είχε ανάλογο ταλέντο στους ελιγμούς, κρίνοντας από την κατάληξη

Re: Προτεστάντες-η 5η φάλαγγα

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 03 Ιουν 2018, 23:43
από Nero
In 1570, Elizabeth I was in a bind. She had been excommunicated by the Pope, and her country was shunned by the rest of Europe. To avoid ruin, England needed allies. The queen sought help from a surprising source: the Islamic world.

The Tudor period has supplied endless popular entertainments—from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth movies to the television series The Tudors—but this story has rarely been told. Jerry Brotton explores the forgotten history of English-Muslim alliances in his new book The Sultan and the Queen. Speaking from his home in Oxford, England, Brotton explains why Elizabeth believed Islam and Protestantism had more in common with each other than with Catholicism and how this cultural exchange may have inspired Shakespeare’s plays and turned the queen’s teeth black.

From Donald Trump to Brexit supporters, many Westerners view Muslims as a threat and want to close the borders. But 500 years ago, Queen Elizabeth I made alliances with the Shah of Iran and the Ottoman Sultan. What can Elizabeth I’s relations with the Islamic world teach us?

A lot. They can teach us that there’s a form of pragmatic exchange and toleration and accommodation, which trumps ideology. One of the key stories in the book is the issue of trade and the way trade collides with religions. The reason Queen Elizabeth develops this relationship with the Islamic world is theology initially. She’s establishing a Protestant state and England has become a pariah in Catholic Europe. So she reaches out for alliances with the Islamic world.

What flows from that is an exchange of trade and goods, regardless of sectarian and theological differences. Elizabeth is not reaching out to Sultan Murad III because she’s a nice person and wants religious accord. She is doing it for hard-nosed political and commercial reasons.

Elizabeth’s alliance with Murad III was essential to her self-preservation, yet this story has largely been left out of Tudor history. Why do you think that is?

In the last few years, there’s been a parochial identification of the Tudors, reflected in the way they have featured in recent TV shows, like The Tudors. It has become an index of Englishness, connected to whiteness and Christianity. But it never tells the wider story of what’s going on internationally. I started working on 16th-century maps and what the maps were telling me was that there was an exchange between the Islamic and Christian worlds, which wasn’t being told in the official histories.

Look at Tudor portraits. It’s all Orient pearls, silk from Iran, or cotton from the Ottoman territories. The English language changes, too. Words suddenly enter, like sugar, candy, crimson, turban, and tulip, which have Arabic or Persian roots. They all come in with the trade with the Islamic world.

Elizabeth did her best to convince Sultan Murad that Protestantism and Islam were two sides of the same coin and that the true heresy was Catholicism. I’m confused …

What she does very shrewdly, when she starts to write to the Sultan in 1579, is say: Look, you and I have many similarities in terms of our theology. We do not believe in idolatry or that you should have intercession, i.e., a saint or a priest will get you closer to God. Protestantism says you should read the Bible and then you will be in direct contact with God. Sunni Islam says the same: You have the Koran, the word of the Prophet, you do not need saints or icons.

Elizabeth is doing this politically. What she’s saying is, you’re fighting Spanish Catholicism; I’m fighting Spanish Catholicism. What nobody mentions, of course, is Christ. [Laughs] Islam believes Jesus is a prophet, but not the son of God. So in all the correspondence, they step around this issue. They always talk about the fact that they both believe in Jesus but not how they believe in Jesus.

She does. Another extraordinary figure, Anthony Jenkins, one of the earliest Englishmen to establish diplomatic and commercial connections with Persia, is on his way back to England, traveling up the Volga River, in what we now call Greater Russia. In Astrakhan, he buys this woman, Aura Soltana. It’s not clear whether this is a slave name or the name of the place she’s come from, but he takes her back to England.

At around this time, a similar figure is established as a lady-in-waiting in Elizabeth’s court. If it’s the same person—and I believe it is—she becomes a kind of fashion adviser to the queen, telling Elizabeth how to wear certain kinds of shoes or materials. Her exotic background made her exactly the kind of person to whom Elizabeth could say, “Oh, you’ve just come back from Moscow, what are the latest catwalk fashions?”

There’s a tantalizing painting of an anonymous woman by Marcus Gheeraerts, called The Persian Lady, which some people speculate is of this woman. She’s dressed in a very opulent, oriental fashion. It could be our lady Aura Soltana, a slave who ends up in Elizabeth’s bedroom, dressing her. It’s an amazing story.

Among other goods, English merchants imported over 250 tons of Moroccan sugar into London every year. Is it true Elizabeth’s love of sugar turned her teeth black?

Yes! [Laughs] We have accounts by European travelers, who describe Elizabeth as a small woman with blackened teeth from eating so many sweet meats and candies. The predominant importation of sugar at that time was from what we would now call Morocco, as a result of Elizabeth’s Anglo-Islamic alliance with the Saadian Dynasties. It’s quite ironic. The Moroccans are fighting the Spanish while Moroccan sugar is destroying Elizabeth’s teeth, and English armaments are helping the Moroccans kill other Christians. [Laughs] Elizabeth liked anything sweet. Candied fruit was a big thing. Everything is just steeped in sugar!

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