Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

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Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Nero » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:21

Ψάχνοντας κάτι άσχετο έπεσε σ'αυτό το κομμάτι από το agricultura του σκατόγερου του Κάτωνα(συμβουλές για αγρότες,περιμένουμε σχόλιο Αγις). Πάρτε λέει λάχανο για το κατούρηματο χέσιμο,το hangover,για όλα

Of the medicinal value of the cabbage: It is the cabbage which surpasses all other vegetables. It may be eaten either cooked or raw; if you eat it raw, dip it into vinegar. It promotes digestion marvellously and is an excellent laxative, and the urine is wholesome for everything.114 If you wish to drink deep at a banquet and to enjoy your dinner, eat as much raw cabbage as you wish, seasoned with vinegar, before dinner, and likewise after dinner eat some half a dozen leaves; it will make you feel as if you had not dined, and you can drink as much as you please.a

2 If you wish to clean out the upper digestive tract, take four pounds of very smooth cabbage leaves, make them into three equal bunches and tie them together. Set a pot of water on the fire, and when it begins to boil sink one bunch for a short time, which will stop the boiling; when it begins again sink the bunch briefly while you count five, and remove. 3 Do the same with the second and third bunches, then throw the three together and macerate. After macerating, squeeze through a cloth about a hemina of the juice into an earthen cup; add a lump of salt the size of a pea, and enough crushed cummin to give it an odour, and let the cup stand in the air through a calm night. Before taking a dose of this, one should take a hot bath, drink honey-water, and go to bed fasting. 4 Early the next morning he should drink the juice and walk about for four hours, attending to any business he has. When the desire comes on him and he is seized with nausea, he p143 should lie down and purge himself; he will evacuate such a quantity of bile and mucus that he will wonder himself where it all came from. Afterwards, when he goes to stool, he should drink a hemina or a little more. If it acts too freely, if he will take two conchas of fine flour, sprinkle it into water, and drink a little, it will cease to act. 5 Those who are suffering from colic should macerate cabbage in water, then pour into hot water, and boil until it is quite soft. Pour off the water, add salt, a bit of cummin, barley flour dust, and oil, and boil again; 6 turn into a dish and allow it to cool. You may break any food you wish into it and eat it; but if you can eat the cabbage alone, do so. If the patient has no fever, administer a very little strong, dark wine, diluted; but if he has fever give only water. The dose should be repeated every morning, but in small quantities, so that it may not pall but continue to be eaten with relish. The treatment is the same for man, woman, and child. 7 Now for those who pass urine with difficulty and suffer from strangury: take cabbage, place it in hot water and boil until it is half-done; pour off most of the water, add a quantity of oil, salt, and a bit of cummin, and boil for a short time. After that drink the broth of this and eat the cabbage itself, that it may be absorbed quickly. Repeat the treatment daily.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... ra/K*.html
έχει δίκιο ή παπαριές λέει ο τσιγγούναρος? :smt017
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από το μέλος Nero την 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:24, έχει επεξεργασθεί 1 φορά συνολικά.

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Naranjita » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:23

πάντα αναρωτιομουν τι πινουν επιτελους τα κοθμονια και ειναι έτσι. τωρα μου λυθηκε η απορια.
ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΝΙΚΑΝΟΙ....
ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΗΛΙΘΙΟΙ.....
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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Nero » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:29

Naranjita έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:23
πάντα αναρωτιομουν τι πινουν επιτελους τα κοθμονια και ειναι έτσι. τωρα μου λυθηκε η απορια.
Ως νοικοκυρά δεν επιβεβαιώνεις δηλαδη? Όπως είπα,ο συγγραφέας ήταν ξινός τσιγκούνης χουντόγερος(ρατσιστής με του Έλληνες) Είναι πιθανό να μπούκωνε όλη του την οικογένεια στο λάχανο γιατί ήταν φτηνό και εύκολο να το μεγαλώσεις στο μποστάνι

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Αγις » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:30

Nero έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:21
Ψάχνοντας κάτι άσχετο έπεσε σ'αυτό το κομμάτι από το agricultura του σκατόγερου του Κάτωνα(συμβουλές για αγρότες,περιμένουμε σχόλιο Αγις). Πάρτε λέει λάχανο για το κατούρηματο χέσιμο,το hangover,για όλα

Of the medicinal value of the cabbage: It is the cabbage which surpasses all other vegetables. It may be eaten either cooked or raw; if you eat it raw, dip it into vinegar. It promotes digestion marvellously and is an excellent laxative, and the urine is wholesome for everything.114 If you wish to drink deep at a banquet and to enjoy your dinner, eat as much raw cabbage as you wish, seasoned with vinegar, before dinner, and likewise after dinner eat some half a dozen leaves; it will make you feel as if you had not dined, and you can drink as much as you please.a

2 If you wish to clean out the upper digestive tract, take four pounds of very smooth cabbage leaves, make them into three equal bunches and tie them together. Set a pot of water on the fire, and when it begins to boil sink one bunch for a short time, which will stop the boiling; when it begins again sink the bunch briefly while you count five, and remove. 3 Do the same with the second and third bunches, then throw the three together and macerate. After macerating, squeeze through a cloth about a hemina of the juice into an earthen cup; add a lump of salt the size of a pea, and enough crushed cummin to give it an odour, and let the cup stand in the air through a calm night. Before taking a dose of this, one should take a hot bath, drink honey-water, and go to bed fasting. 4 Early the next morning he should drink the juice and walk about for four hours, attending to any business he has. When the desire comes on him and he is seized with nausea, he p143 should lie down and purge himself; he will evacuate such a quantity of bile and mucus that he will wonder himself where it all came from. Afterwards, when he goes to stool, he should drink a hemina or a little more. If it acts too freely, if he will take two conchas of fine flour, sprinkle it into water, and drink a little, it will cease to act. 5 Those who are suffering from colic should macerate cabbage in water, then pour into hot water, and boil until it is quite soft. Pour off the water, add salt, a bit of cummin, barley flour dust, and oil, and boil again; 6 turn into a dish and allow it to cool. You may break any food you wish into it and eat it; but if you can eat the cabbage alone, do so. If the patient has no fever, administer a very little strong, dark wine, diluted; but if he has fever give only water. The dose should be repeated every morning, but in small quantities, so that it may not pall but continue to be eaten with relish. The treatment is the same for man, woman, and child. 7 Now for those who pass urine with difficulty and suffer from strangury: take cabbage, place it in hot water and boil until it is half-done; pour off most of the water, add a quantity of oil, salt, and a bit of cummin, and boil for a short time. After that drink the broth of this and eat the cabbage itself, that it may be absorbed quickly. Repeat the treatment daily.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... ra/K*.html
έχει δίκιο ή παπαριές λέει ο τσιγγούναρος? :smt017
Το σίγουρο είναι οτι το λάχανο είναι το καλύτερο για να μην μεθάς εύκολα .
Η λαική μαγειρική σοφία δεν το είχε τυχαία σαν πρώτη επιλογή οταν το φαγητό ''τραβάει '' πολύ κρασί - οπως στην παραδοσιακή συνταγή για χέλια που είχα ανεβάσει και είχα αναφέρει αυτή την ιδιότητα του.
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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:33

Το θεμα ειναι γιατι να θες να πιεις πολυ κρασι αν μπορεις να εχεις τα αποτελεσματα της μεγαλης ποσοτητας με λιγο.
Ποτε δεν το καταλαβαινα αυτο
Θα επρεπε να επικεντρωνονται στα ματζουνια ωστε να μεθας γρηγοροτερα οχι πιο αργα
Μιλαμε για τρελη οικονομια και πολυ μικροτερη επιβαρυνση του οργανισμου
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από το μέλος ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ την 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:35, έχει επεξεργασθεί 2 φορές συνολικά.
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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από GoBack » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:34

Για το bragging
Philip Mortimer έγραψε:
14 Μαρ 2023, 22:40
Όσον αφορά το 2019 προσωπικά ψήφισα τον Μητσοτάκη γιατί πίστεψα στο όραμα μη πολιτικά χρωματισμένου εκσυγχρονισμού που παρουσίασε.

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Nero » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:36

Αγις έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:30

Το σίγουρο είναι οτι το λάχανο είναι το καλύτερο για να μην μεθάς εύκολα .
Η λαική μαγειρική σοφία δεν το είχε τυχαία σαν πρώτη επιλογή οταν το φαγητό ''τραβάει '' πολύ κρασί - οπως στην παραδοσιακή συνταγή για χέλια που είχα ανεβάσει και είχα αναφέρει αυτή την ιδιότητα του.
Για τη συνταγή του λαχανόξυδου για ευχάριστο κατούρημα τι γνώμη έχουμε?

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:37

Οταν λες ευχαριστο κατουρημα τι ακριβως εννοεις;
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Και δευτερη γιατι μεσω του Ταμειου Ξεπουληματος Χωρας παρεδωσε την εθνικη κυριαρχια και τον εθνικο πλουτο στους δανειστες

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Nero » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:38

ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣ ΓΙΑΝΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:37
Οταν λες ευχαριστο κατουρημα τι ακριβως εννοεις;
τι να σου πω,έτσι το γράφει

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από GoBack » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:41

Φαε λαχανακι μωρε μην το πολυψαχνεις.Νερο εχει,κατουρημα θα φερει.
Philip Mortimer έγραψε:
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Όσον αφορά το 2019 προσωπικά ψήφισα τον Μητσοτάκη γιατί πίστεψα στο όραμα μη πολιτικά χρωματισμένου εκσυγχρονισμού που παρουσίασε.

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Custom_F » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:43

Για το λάχανο ξέρω ότι κάνει κατακράτηση.

HaTeRs GoNnA hAtE... :102:
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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Αγις » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:44

Nero έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:36
Αγις έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:30

Το σίγουρο είναι οτι το λάχανο είναι το καλύτερο για να μην μεθάς εύκολα .
Η λαική μαγειρική σοφία δεν το είχε τυχαία σαν πρώτη επιλογή οταν το φαγητό ''τραβάει '' πολύ κρασί - οπως στην παραδοσιακή συνταγή για χέλια που είχα ανεβάσει και είχα αναφέρει αυτή την ιδιότητα του.
Για τη συνταγή του λαχανόξυδου για ευχάριστο κατούρημα τι γνώμη έχουμε?
Σε αυτό θα σου απαντήσει ο Καβαλιέρε - εκεί στην Γερμανία συνηθίζουν κάτι τέτοια.
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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Nero » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:45

Ο άρχοντας είχε και συμβουλές για παραγωγή κρασιού :D
Wine for the hands to drink through the winter: Pour into a jar 10 quadrantals of must, 2 quadrantals of sharp vinegar, 2 quadrantals of boiled must, 50 quadrantals of fresh water. Stir p99 with a stick thrice a day for five consecutive days. Then add 64 sextarii of old sea-water, cover the jar, and seal ten days later. This wine will last you until the summer solstice; whatever is left over after the solstice will be a very sharp and excellent vinegar.

If your place is far from the sea, you may use this recipe for Greek wine: Pour 20 quadrantals of must into a copper or lead boiler and heat. As soon as the wine boils, remove the fire; and when the wine has cooled, pour into a jar holding 40 quadrantals. Pour 1 modius of salt and 1 quadrantal of fresh water into a separate vessel, and let a brine be made; and when the brine is made pour it into the jar. Pound rush and calamus in a mortar to make a sufficient quantity, and pour 1 sextarius into the jar to give it an odour. Thirty days later seal the jar, and rack off into amphorae in the spring. Let it stand for two years in the sun, then bring it under cover. This wine will not be inferior to the Coan.88

Preparation of sea-water: Take 1 quadrantal of water from the deep sea where no fresh water comes; parch 1½ pounds of salt, add it, and stir with a rod until a boiled hen's egg will float; then stop the stirring. Add 2 congii of old wine, either Aminnian or ordinary white, and after mixing thoroughly pour into a pitched jar and seal. If you wish to make a larger quantity of sea-water, use a proportionate amount of the same materials.

To coat the brim of wine jars, so as to give a good odour and to keep any blemish from the wine: Put 6 congii of the best boiled must in a copper or lead vessel; take a hemina of dry crushed p101 iris and 5 pounds of fragrant Campanian melilot, grind very fine with the iris, and pass through a sieve into the must. Boil the whole over a slow fire of faggots, stirring constantly to prevent scorching; continue the boiling, until you have boiled off a half. When it has cooled, pour into a sweet smelling jar covered with pitch, seal, and use for the brims of wine jars.

If you wish to determine whether wine will keep or not, place in a new vessel half an acetabulum of large pearl barley and a sextarius of the wine you wish to test; place it on the coals and bring it to a boil two or three times; then strain, throw away the barley, and place the wine in the open. Taste it the next morning. If it is sweet, you may know that the wine in the jar will keep; but if it is slightly acid it will not.

To make sharp wine mild and sweet: Make 4 pounds of flour from vetch, and mix 4 cyathi of wine with boiled must; make into small bricks and let them soak for a night and a day; then dissolve with the wine in the jar, and seal sixty days later. The wine will be mild and sweet, of good colour and of good odour.

110 1 To remove a bad odour from wine: Heat a thick clean piece of roofing-tile thoroughly in the fire. When it is hot coat it with pitch, attach a string, lower it gently to the bottom of the jar, and leave the jar sealed for two days. If the bad odour is removed the first time, that will be best; if not, repeat until the bad odour is removed.

111 1 If you wish to determine whether wine has been watered or not: Make a vessel of ivy wood and put in it some of the wine you think has water p103 in it. If it contains water, the wine will soak through and the water will remain, for a vessel of ivy wood will not hold wine.

Recipe for Coan wine: Take sea-water at a distance from the shore, where fresh water does not come, when the sea is calm and no wind is blowing, seventy days before vintage. After taking it from the sea, pour into a jar, filling it not fully but to within five quadrantals of the top. Cover the jar, leaving space for air, and thirty days later pour it slowly and carefully into another jar, leaving the sediment in the bottom. Twenty days later pour in the same way into a third jar, and leave until vintage. Allow the grapes from which you intend to make the Coan wine to remain on the vine, let them ripen thoroughly, and pick them when they have dried after a rain. Place them in the sun for two days, or in the open for three days, unless it is raining, in which case put them under cover in baskets; clear out any berries which have rotted. Then take the above-mentioned sea-water and pour 10 quadrantals into a jar holding 50; then pick the berries of ordinary grapes from the stem into the jar until you have filled it. Press the berries with the hand so that they may soak in the sea-water. When the jar is full, cover it, leaving space for air, and three days later remove the grapes from the jar, tread out in the pressing-room, and store the wine in jars which have been washed clean and dried.

To impart a sweet aroma: Take a tile covered with pitch, spread over it warm ashes, and cover with aromatic herbs, rush and the palm which the perfumers keep, place in a jar and cover, so that p105 the odour will not escape before you pour in the wine. Do this the day before you wish to pour in the wine. Pour the wine into the jars from the vat immediately, let them stand covered for fifteen days before sealing, leaving space for air, and then seal. Forty days later pour off into amphorae, and add one sextarius of boiled must to the amphora. Do not fill the amphorae higher than the bottom of the handles, and place them in the sun where there is no grass. Cover the amphorae so that water cannot enter, and let them stand in the sun not more than four years; four years later, arrange them in a wedge, and pack them closely.

If you wish to make a laxative wine: After vintage, when the vines are trenched, expose the roots of as many vines as you think you will need for the purpose and mark them; isolate and clear the roots. Pound roots of black hellebore in the mortar, and apply around the vines. Cover the roots with old manure, old ashes, and two parts of earth, and cover the whole with earth. Gather these grapes separately; if you wish to keep the wine for some time as a laxative, do not mix it with the other wine. Take a cyathus of this wine, dilute it with water, and drink it before dinner; it will move the bowels with no bad results.

Throw in a handful of black hellebore to the amphora of must, and when the fermentation is complete, remove the hellebore from the wine; save this wine for a laxative.

To prepare a laxative wine: When the vines are trenched, mark with red chalk so that you will not mix with the rest of the wine; place three bundles of black hellebore around the roots and cover with p107 earth. Keep the yield from these vines separate during the vintage. Put a cyathus into another drink; it will move the bowels and the next day give a thorough purging without danger.

To preserve lentils: Infuse asafetida89 in vinegar, soak the lentils in the infusion of vinegar and asafetida, and expose to the sun; then rub the lentils with oil, allow them to dry, and they will keep quite sound.

To season green olives: Bruise the olives before they become black and throw them into water. Change the water often, and when they are well soaked press out and throw into vinegar; add oil, and a half pound of salt to the modius of olives. Make a dressing of fennel and mastic steeped in vinegar, using a separate vessel. If you wish to mix them together they must be served at once. Press them out into an earthenware vessel and take them out with dry hands when you wish to serve them.

To season green olives which you wish to use after vintage, add as much must as vinegar; for the rest, season them as stated above.

Recipe for a confection of green, ripe, and mottled olives. Remove the stones from green, ripe, and mottled olives, and season as follows: chop the flesh, and add oil, vinegar, coriander, cummin, fennel, rue, and mint. Cover with oil in an earthen dish, and serve.

If you wish to keep grape juice through the whole year, put the grape juice in an amphora, seal the stopper with pitch, and sink in the pond. Take it out after thirty days; it will remain sweet the whole year.

Recipe for must cake: Moisten 1 modius of wheat flour with must; add anise, cummin, 2 pounds of lard, 1 pound of cheese, and the bark of a laurel twig. When you have made them into cakes, put bay leaves under them, and bake.

To blend a wine as a remedy for retention of urine: Macerate capreida90 or Jupiter, add a pound of it, and boil in 2 congii of old wine in a copper or lead vessel. After it cools, pour into a bottle. Take a cyathus in the morning before eating; it will prove beneficial.

To blend a wine as a remedy for gout: Cut into small chips a piece of juniper wood a half-foot thick, boil with a congius of old wine, and after it cools pour into a bottle. Take a cyathus in the morning before eating; it will prove beneficial.

Dogs should be chained up during the day, so that they may be keener and more watchful at night.

125 1 Recipe for myrtle wine: Dry out black myrtle in the shade, and when dried keep it until vintage. Macerate a half-modius of myrtle into an urna of must and seal it. When the must has ceased to ferment remove the myrtle. This is a remedy for indigestion, for pain in the side, and for colic.

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από GoBack » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:48

Custom_F έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:43
Για το λάχανο ξέρω ότι κάνει κατακράτηση.
Δεν γινεται να κανει κατακρατηση κατι που αποτελειται απο 90% νερο.
Philip Mortimer έγραψε:
14 Μαρ 2023, 22:40
Όσον αφορά το 2019 προσωπικά ψήφισα τον Μητσοτάκη γιατί πίστεψα στο όραμα μη πολιτικά χρωματισμένου εκσυγχρονισμού που παρουσίασε.

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Re: Λάχανο το θαυματουργό

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Custom_F » 25 Σεπ 2018, 15:51

GoBack έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:48
Custom_F έγραψε:
25 Σεπ 2018, 15:43
Για το λάχανο ξέρω ότι κάνει κατακράτηση.
Δεν γινεται να κανει κατακρατηση κατι που αποτελειται απο 90% νερο.
Καλα... Τότε...

Για το λάχανο μόλις εμαθα ότι δεν κάνει κατακράτηση.

HaTeRs GoNnA hAtE... :102:
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