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Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:39
από Λεγεών
Πριν ένα λεπτό πέρασα μπροστά από κάτι γραφεία τους στην οδό Ασκληπιού. Πουλούσαν το τεστ άγχους του Χάμπαρντ.

Είναι δυνατόν;

Πολύ ζέστη πάντως.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:41
από alexandroso
Αν και είμαι υπέρ της απόλυτης ελευθερίας του λόγου οι τύποι είναι για τη φυλακή.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:45
από Cavaliere
Στην πόλη μας έχουν μια εκκλησία όπως αυτή.
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Δεν τους είδα ποτέ, δεν γνώρισα ποτέ κανέναν τους, δεν με προσέγγισαν ποτέ.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:47
από alexandroso
Cavaliere έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:45
Στην πόλη μας έχουν μια εκκλησία όπως αυτή.
Εικόνα
Δεν τους είδα ποτέ, δεν γνώρισα ποτέ κανέναν τους, δεν με προσέγγισαν ποτέ.
Ευτυχώς για σένα. Δεν φημίζονται για την φιλικότητά τους σε όποιον τους πάει κόντρα.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:48
από Χουργιατς
Λεγεών έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:39
Πριν ένα λεπτό πέρασα μπροστά από κάτι γραφεία τους στην οδό Ασκληπιού. Πουλούσαν το τεστ άγχους του Χάμπαρντ.

Είναι δυνατόν;

Πολύ ζέστη πάντως.


Από την προηγούμενη δεκαετία. Μάλιστα έχουν και δωρεάν τo πρώτο ψυχοτέστ απομάκρυνσης των κακών εμπειριών και αφύπνισης των επιπέδων Θήτα.

Γυναίκες και φουσκωτοί, ο κόσμος που σύχναζε. Κάτι σαν τη Νέα Ακρόπολη :102:

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 14:52
από Cavaliere
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:47
Ευτυχώς για σένα. Δεν φημίζονται για την φιλικότητά τους σε όποιον τους πάει κόντρα.
Για πες, ρε συ. Και η γυναίκα μου τους βρίζει, και οι περισσότεροι φίλοι μου. Τι παίζει;

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:00
από alexandroso
Cavaliere έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:52
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:47
Ευτυχώς για σένα. Δεν φημίζονται για την φιλικότητά τους σε όποιον τους πάει κόντρα.
Για πες, ρε συ. Και η γυναίκα μου τους βρίζει, και οι περισσότεροι φίλοι μου. Τι παίζει;
Κατ αρχήν έτσι και πεις κάτι άσχημο δημόσια εναντίον τους, και υπάρχουν πολλά σκάνδαλα που είναι μπλεγμένοι, τη γάμησες. Θα πλακώσουν χίλιοι δικηγόροι να σε τρέχουν μέχρι να βλαστημήσεις το γάλα της μάνας σου. Ετσι δε και έχεις κανένα μέλος της οικογένειας που μπλέχτηκε μαζί τους, ξέχνα το. Οι σαιεντολόγοι πιστεύουν ότι πρέπει να κόβεις κάθε επαφή με άτομα που δεν ακολουθούν τις πεποιθήσεις τους συμπεριλαμβανομένου του στενού τους οικογενειακού κύκλου.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:04
από alexandroso
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:00
Κατ αρχήν έτσι και πεις κάτι άσχημο δημόσια εναντίον τους, και υπάρχουν πολλά σκάνδαλα που είναι μπλεγμένοι, τη γάμησες. Θα πλακώσουν χίλιοι δικηγόροι να σε τρέχουν μέχρι να βλαστημήσεις το γάλα της μάνας σου.
Π.χ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scand ... cientology

[...]The book earned Cooper negative attention from members of the Church, and she was subsequently the target not only of litigation but a harassment campaign known as Operation Freakout,[5] the goal of which was to deter Cooper from criticism of Scientology by having her "incarcerated in a mental institution or jail or at least to hit her so hard that she drops her attacks".[6][7] Members of the church sent itself forged bomb threats, purportedly from Cooper,[8] using her typewriter and paper with her fingerprints on it; further plans included bomb threats to be sent to Henry Kissinger. The Church's campaign was discovered when the FBI raided Scientology offices in 1977 and recovered documents relating to the operation.[...]

[...]The Church of Scientology of Canada attempted to suppress the book in libraries in Canada. In June 1974, libraries were advised that if they do not remove the books Scientology: The Now Religion, Inside Scientology, The Scandal of Scientology and The Mind Benders from their shelves, they would be named in a lawsuit.[11] Two different library boards in Ontario, Canada had been served with writs.[11]

After obtaining out-of-court settlements of US$7,500 and US$500 and apologies from the publishers of two of the works (Dell Publishing and Tower Publications), Scientology further threatened to sue any library or bookstore that carried them.[12] After certain libraries in Canada refused to remove the books from their shelves, they were sued by Scientology.[12] One Canadian library reported the theft of a book critical of Scientology from its shelves[...]

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:08
από Otto Weininger
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:47
Cavaliere έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 14:45
Στην πόλη μας έχουν μια εκκλησία όπως αυτή.
Εικόνα
Δεν τους είδα ποτέ, δεν γνώρισα ποτέ κανέναν τους, δεν με προσέγγισαν ποτέ.
Ευτυχώς για σένα. Δεν φημίζονται για την φιλικότητά τους σε όποιον τους πάει κόντρα.
Πριν πολλα χρόνια, εκανα την καθιερωμένη βόλτα για αγορές στην ετήσια έκθεση βιβλίου στο Πασαλιμανι. Κάποια στιγμή στάθηκα μπροστά στον πάγκο των σαιντελογων χωρίς να το πάρω χαμπάρι.

Μου έκανε απλά εντύπωση πως είχαν ένα σωρό βιβλία του ίδιου τύπου. Με αρχίζει μια στο ποίημα και εκεί συνειδητοποιώ ποιοι είναι. Αφήνω το βιβλίο κάτω και λέω, Α,όχι Ευχαριστώ δεν ενδιαφέρομαι.

Και με αρχίζει, δεν πειράζει, δεν είναι για όλους, κάποιοι είναι για ψηλά εσύ όχι .
Εντάξει τις λέω, τραβα παραπερα τώρα, γιατί πλησίαζε.
Και δώστου αυτή να με στολίζει, απλα λίγο πιο χαμηλόφωνα αυτή τη φορά.

Δεν πάνε καλά.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:14
από alexandroso
Otto Weininger έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:08
Δεν πάνε καλά.
Είναι σοβαρό το θέμα. Δεν είναι απλά κάτι γραφικοί. Είναι επικίνδυνοι.

https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/f ... ogy/987201

1. Scientology's founder was a science-fiction writer.

Scientology was founded by L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who holds the Guinness World Record for Most Published Works By One Author. The foundational texts of Scientology and the church's creation story, involve aliens. The church denies that it believes in aliens, however.
2. The founder of Scientology once told his wife he murdered their child.

Hubbard is an extremely controversial figure, particularly for exhibiting paranoid and abusive tendencies, which the church seems to have adopted as well.

Apparently when his second wife threatened to leave him, he kidnaped their daughter. He then called his wife and claimed he'd butchered the girl, but later called back and admitted she was still alive.
3. Members are pressured to talk about their sex lives.

Scientologists have to go through a process known as auditing, in which the church asks them extremely personal questions about their lives.

This seems to be a form of blackmail, as the church keeps detailed records of the proceedings and the questions often pertain to people's sex lives. If members ever want to leave the church, it can threaten to reveal this information.
4. Scientologists believe mental illness doesn't exist.

Hubbard believed that psychiatrists were evil and even characterized them as terrorists. Scientologists do not believe in psychology and are vehemently against using psychiatric medication.
5. There was apparently a Scientology "prison camp."

Previous members of the church have described what seems to be a Scientology "prison camp," which disobedient members were sent to for "re-indoctrination." At the camp, known as the Rehabilitation Project Force, people were forced to eat meager meals and do hard labor.

6. Jerry Seinfeld, among other celebrities, dabbled in Scientology.

In order to increase its power and status, Scientology actively seeks out celebrity members. Some of the more famous ones are Tom Cruise and John Travolta, but many celebrities have also left the church for various reasons.
7. The FBI investigated Scientology for human trafficking.

The church has been accused of enslaving members, The Telegraph reports. Indeed, there have often been allegations that it's nearly impossible to leave the church once you join.

There have also been reports of violence from church officials, all of which prompted the FBI to investigate the ways in which members might be controlled and coerced into staying.

8. Scientology is constantly preparing for the apocalypse.

Scientology is hardly the first religion to reference the apocalypse, but not every faith is building secret bunkers in the woods in preparation for it. These bunkers include nuclear-proof shelters and massive vaults with footage of Hubbard.
9. The church tried to censor Wikipedia.

Wikipedia has banned any organization affiliated with Scientology from editing its articles. The church has been accused of repeatedly attempting to remove information critical of it.

This should come as no surprise considering Scientology has a very antagonistic and repressive relationship with the media and Internet.

10. The church spied on Nicole Kidman at Tom Cruise's request.

Nicole Kidman's father was a psychologist -- a profession the church isn't too fond of -- so they reportedly began spying on her. At one point, the church supposedly wire-taped Kidman's phone.

All of this ultimately helped lead to Cruise and Kidman's divorce.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:16
από Cavaliere
Τι λε, ρε πούστη μου... Μιλάμε για εγκληματική οργάνωση.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:23
από Beria
Cavaliere έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:16
Τι λε, ρε πούστη μου... Μιλάμε για εγκληματική οργάνωση.
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:14
  ...further plans included bomb threats to be sent to Henry Kissinger.  
Θα έβαζαν βόμβα στον Χένρι οι αλήτες!
Και δεν τους μάζεψαν όλους;;

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:24
από Cavaliere
Beria έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:23
Θα έβαζαν βόμβα στον Χένρι οι αλήτες!
Και δεν τους μάζεψαν όλους;;
Άρα είναι φιλέλληνες για, αφού ο Οβραίος είπεν πως είμεθα ατίθασοι και πρέπει να μας αλλοιώσει την κουλτούρα.

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:27
από Philip Mortimer
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:14
. He then called his wife and claimed he'd butchered the girl,
:o

Re: Σαϊεντολόγοι

Δημοσιεύτηκε: 12 Αύγ 2019, 15:30
από Otto Weininger
alexandroso έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:14
Otto Weininger έγραψε:
12 Αύγ 2019, 15:08
Δεν πάνε καλά.
Είναι σοβαρό το θέμα. Δεν είναι απλά κάτι γραφικοί. Είναι επικίνδυνοι.
SpoilerShow
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/f ... ogy/987201

1. Scientology's founder was a science-fiction writer.

Scientology was founded by L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who holds the Guinness World Record for Most Published Works By One Author. The foundational texts of Scientology and the church's creation story, involve aliens. The church denies that it believes in aliens, however.
2. The founder of Scientology once told his wife he murdered their child.

Hubbard is an extremely controversial figure, particularly for exhibiting paranoid and abusive tendencies, which the church seems to have adopted as well.

Apparently when his second wife threatened to leave him, he kidnaped their daughter. He then called his wife and claimed he'd butchered the girl, but later called back and admitted she was still alive.
3. Members are pressured to talk about their sex lives.

Scientologists have to go through a process known as auditing, in which the church asks them extremely personal questions about their lives.

This seems to be a form of blackmail, as the church keeps detailed records of the proceedings and the questions often pertain to people's sex lives. If members ever want to leave the church, it can threaten to reveal this information.
4. Scientologists believe mental illness doesn't exist.

Hubbard believed that psychiatrists were evil and even characterized them as terrorists. Scientologists do not believe in psychology and are vehemently against using psychiatric medication.
5. There was apparently a Scientology "prison camp."

Previous members of the church have described what seems to be a Scientology "prison camp," which disobedient members were sent to for "re-indoctrination." At the camp, known as the Rehabilitation Project Force, people were forced to eat meager meals and do hard labor.

6. Jerry Seinfeld, among other celebrities, dabbled in Scientology.

In order to increase its power and status, Scientology actively seeks out celebrity members. Some of the more famous ones are Tom Cruise and John Travolta, but many celebrities have also left the church for various reasons.
7. The FBI investigated Scientology for human trafficking.

The church has been accused of enslaving members, The Telegraph reports. Indeed, there have often been allegations that it's nearly impossible to leave the church once you join.

There have also been reports of violence from church officials, all of which prompted the FBI to investigate the ways in which members might be controlled and coerced into staying.

8. Scientology is constantly preparing for the apocalypse.

Scientology is hardly the first religion to reference the apocalypse, but not every faith is building secret bunkers in the woods in preparation for it. These bunkers include nuclear-proof shelters and massive vaults with footage of Hubbard.
9. The church tried to censor Wikipedia.

Wikipedia has banned any organization affiliated with Scientology from editing its articles. The church has been accused of repeatedly attempting to remove information critical of it.

This should come as no surprise considering Scientology has a very antagonistic and repressive relationship with the media and Internet.

10. The church spied on Nicole Kidman at Tom Cruise's request.

Nicole Kidman's father was a psychologist -- a profession the church isn't too fond of -- so they reportedly began spying on her. At one point, the church supposedly wire-taped Kidman's phone.

All of this ultimately helped lead to Cruise and Kidman's divorce.
Που να δεις τι έχει γραφτεί για τον αρχηγό, τον David Miscavige αλλα και το γίνεται στην μυστική βάση



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