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Re: Η Σινδόνη τού Τορίνο

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από pussycat » 10 Μάιος 2021, 20:52

Η συντριπτική πλειοψηφία των επιστημόνων υποστηρίζει πως η σινδόνη:

α) χρονολογείται κάπου στον μεσαίωνα
β) είναι κάποιου είδους τέχνη

Διένεξη μεταξύ τους υπάρχει μόνο σχετικά με το πώς καλλιτεχνήθηκε και άντεξε στον χρόνο, και όχι για το αν είναι η αυθεντική απεικόνιση του Χριστού, κάτι το οποίο έχει διαψευστεί κατηγορηματικά.

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Re: Η Σινδόνη τού Τορίνο

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Στρακαστρουκας » 11 Μάιος 2021, 19:07

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%86%CE ... E%B9%CE%BF

Υπαρχει μια αναλογη παλαιοτερη ιστορια με το ιερον Μανδυλιον
"Δεν ειμαι ΝΔλης αλλα..."

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Re: Η Σινδόνη τού Τορίνο

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Who is The 4th man » 12 Μάιος 2021, 04:55

από την ανάλυση ενος κοματιου της Σινδόνης τορίνου πού έκανε ό εγκληματολόγος
Max Frei βρέθηκαν ίχνη γυρης καί ίχνη λουλουδιών πού βρίσκονται μονο στη περιοχή των
Ιεροσολύμων και Ιεριχούς.....
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https://earlychurchhistory.org/christia ... t-is-real/

παρακαλω διαβάζουμε,πρεπει να γίνουμε διαβαστερά παιδιά :lol:
"Scientists and technicians took note and have studied the Shroud ever since. Some have concluded it is the true burial shroud of Jesus. Others have pronounced it a medieval forgery. But in 1978 a noted Swiss criminologist, Dr. Max Frei, took sticky tape samples from the Shroud lifted up from the fibers and found—POLLEN GRAINS.

Enter into the pollen/floral discussion two Israeli professors: Botanist Avinoam Danin of Jerusalem’s Hebrew University who published nine books on the flora of the Middle East and Dr. Uri Baruch, a palynologist (science of pollen and spores) and authority on Israeli antiquities
Avinoam and Baruch found that of the hundreds of floral patterns and pollen grains found on the Shroud twenty-eight of them are from plants still growing in Israel and 70% of them are found in the area from Jerusalem to Jericho (e.g. Gundelia tournefortii, Zygophyllum dumosum, Cistus creticus, Capparis aegyptis). Half of the floral images and pollen grains from the plants are found only in the Middle East or other similar areas but never in Europe, the favored location of the forgery of the Shroud.
As was the Jewish burial custom in the time of Jesus, most of the flowers were clustered around the head and chest of the man on the Shroud. All twenty-eight of the flowers would have been available in Jerusalem markets for fresh and burial bouquets. Many would have been growing along the roadside or in nearby fields and could have been gathered to honor the dead man. Twenty-seven of the identified plants are in bloom in March and April. Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem during the Passover in the Spring of c. 30 AD. (Matthew 26:12; Mark 14:1; Luke 22:1,7: John 18:28)

The scientists’ analyses positively identified many grains of pollen of the Gundelia tournefortii which has large thorns and blooms in Israel between March and May. Most of the grains of pollen from that plant have been recovered near the man’s shoulder. Could it have been the crown of thorns:
There were, also, small images of flowers on the Shroud. A flower seen in a clear image on the chest area of the Shroud is of the Zygophyllum dumosum species (left). The leaflet, petal and flower of Zygophyllum on the Shroud are highlighted in black.

According to Dr. Danin, the botanist, the plants Gundelia and Zygophyllum only coexist in a small area bounded by the lines linking Jerusalem and Jericho in Israel and Madaba and Karak in Jordan. “This combination of flowers can be found in only one region of the world,” Danin stated. “The evidence clearly points to a floral grouping from the area surrounding Jerusalem.” The two scientists are convinced from the pollen and floral patterns on the Shroud that the Shroud originated in Israel.

In addition to being unable to explain so many things about the Shroud of Turin, did it ever occur to modern skeptics that no medieval forger would have been able to forge pollen grains and floral images. Pollen grains are able to be seen only through a microscope. A medieval artist/forger did not even KNOW about individual GRAINS of pollen, could never ever have seen a microscopic grain of pollen—until the 1800’s AD.—Sandra Sweeny Silver"
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Re: Η Σινδόνη τού Τορίνο

Μη αναγνωσμένη δημοσίευση από Who is The 4th man » 12 Μάιος 2021, 05:07

απ'την ανάλυση VP-8 της ομάδας STURP-1978

https://shroud.com/78strp10.htm

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διαβάζουμε.....
"When input to a VP-8, a normal photograph does not result in a properly formed dimensional image but in a rather distorted jumble of light and dark "shapes." That is because the lights and darks of a normal photograph result solely from the amount of light reflected by the subject onto the film. The image densities do not depend on the distance the subject was from the film. Yet the image on the Shroud of Turin yields a very accurate dimensional relief of a human form. One must conclude from this that the image density on the cloth is directly proportionate to the distance it was from the body it covered. In essence, the closer the cloth was to the body (tip of nose, cheekbone, etc.), the darker the image, and the further away (eye sockets, neck, etc.), the fainter the image. This spatial data encoded into the image actually eliminates photography and painting as the possible mechanism for its creation and allows us to conclude that the image was formed while the cloth was draped over an actual human body. So the VP-8 Image Analyzer not only revealed a very important characteristic of the Shroud image, but historically it also provided the actual motivation to form the team that would ultimately go and investigate it. Interestingly, only sixty VP-8 Image Analyzers were ever constructed and only two remain functional today.

On May 1, 1997, I was fortunate to spend some time in North Carolina with my friend Kevin Moran, retired Senior Technology Specialist from Eastman Kodak's Estek Products Division and a Shroud researcher since 1978. Kevin owns one of the two functioning original VP-8 units and was kind enough to welcome me into his home and spend the next 14 straight hours working with me to videotape "new" VP-8 images. Actually, the real thanks should go to his dear wife Anne, who put up with the two of us working until 4:00am!

To maximize the quality of the somewhat dated and temperamental imaging system, I replaced the existing camera and lens with a new high resolution CCD camera and lens and used first generation black & white prints made directly from my original 4x5" negatives as source images. I recorded the results off the VP-8's green screen monitor using a Sony BetaCam SP system. The image at the top of this page is a frame taken from the videotape we made during that "all-nighter". The Animated Gif file below shows only a brief sample of the VP-8 "Gain" control being applied to the Shroud facial area."

δεν γινεται αυτό το αποτύπωμα με ζωγραφιά,ούτε με τεχνολογία 21αιωνα


to be continued "Shroud of Tourin Wars" :a010:
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