Εκτελέσεις με χρώμα και φαντασία

[Ζαποτέκος]

Τι επιστήμη παρήγαγαν οι Ρωμαίοι;

Γέφυρες ;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert-Fr ... is_Damiens

Τι να πεί και ο Μαρσύας ;

Γιατί εσείς με γδέρνετε; ω, εγώ μετανοώ! ω, ένα φλάουτο ήταν δεν αξίζει τέτοια πράξη !

https://chilonas.com/2017/05/26/httpwp-mep1op6y-5rp/

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Τι επιστήμη παρήγαγαν οι Ρωμαίοι;

Γέφυρες ;

Ακριβώς. Πρακτικά πράγματα με άλλα λόγια.

Σε αντίθεση με τους Έλληνες.

[sys3x]

Τι επιστήμη παρήγαγαν οι Ρωμαίοι;

Γέφυρες ;

Ακριβώς. Πρακτικά πράγματα με άλλα λόγια.

Σε αντίθεση με τους Έλληνες.

Ε ναι, γεωμετρία μαθηματικά φυσική και μαλακίες.

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Γέφυρες ;

Ακριβώς. Πρακτικά πράγματα με άλλα λόγια.

Σε αντίθεση με τους Έλληνες.

Ε ναι, γεωμετρία μαθηματικά φυσική και μαλακίες.

Κοινωνικά άχρηστες μαλακίες, όπως λέει κ ο Antigeist.

[sys3x]

Ακριβώς. Πρακτικά πράγματα με άλλα λόγια.

Σε αντίθεση με τους Έλληνες.

Ε ναι, γεωμετρία μαθηματικά φυσική και μαλακίες.

Κοινωνικά άχρηστες μαλακίες, όπως λέει κ ο Antigeist.

Ναι, ο αντιγκάηστ λέει μπόλικες.

[argouen]

Τι επιστήμη παρήγαγαν οι Ρωμαίοι;

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Τι επιστήμη παρήγαγαν οι Ρωμαίοι;

[zteo]

Εγω παλι θα το εκανα οπως στην ταινια Τζαμετι 13.Θα εβαζα στους καταδικους μια μπλουζα με ενα νουμερο θα τους εδινα ενα πιστολι με μια σφαιρα και θα τους εβαζα σε εναν κυκλο οπου ο ενας θα σημαδευε το κεφαλι του αλλου.Στην μεση του κυκλου θα εβαζα μια λαμπα και θα τους ελεγα οτι μολις κλεισει το φως της λαμπας πυροβολατε.Οι θεατες απεξω θα συοιχηματιζαν μεταξυ τους στα νουμερα των καταδικων ποιος θα ζησει και ποιος θα πεθανει.Σε καθε γυρο θα εβαζα απο μια επιπλεον σφαιρα στο οπλο τους.

[Nero]

If Mike Tyson had been born in ancient Rome, would he have been a great gladiator? The question seemed apropos a few years ago when Tyson announced that, for a certain sum of money, he would be willing to fight a lion.

It's not hard to close your eyes and picture Tyson bare-chested, trident in hand, circling a lion at the center of the Colosseum, with a crowd of Romans going wild for the stout guy from the provinces who fights boldly and speaks Latin with a lisp.

Too bad it could never have happened: (a) The Roman Empire never acquired the Bronx as a province; and (b) gladiators in Rome never fought animals one-on-one.The latter is one of many useful facts about gladiators that emerges from "The Gladiators: History's Most Deadly Sport," a new book by Fik Meijer, a professor of ancient history at the University of Amsterdam.

Also worth knowing: Gladiators attended schools and belonged to unions. Emperor Domitian once organized nighttime games, in which female gladiators fought dwarfs by torchlight. Barley gruel was a major part of gladiators' diet, earning them the nickname "barley-porridge-eaters." And the Colosseum had no toilets.

To quote the character Maximus from the movie "Gladiator," "Are you not entertained?" Well, yes, I was. Even in the hands of a stiff, serious his torian such as Mr. Meijer, gladiators remain an entertaining lot.

According to the author, the popularity of the gladiatorial games spanned several hundred years of Roman history. During the late republic and imperial period, tens of thousands of fans packed into sweltering amphitheaters to watch the beefy gladiators hack each other to bits. Mr. Meijer wants to understand why.

"Why did the Romans have such a passion for the gladiator games?" he writes. "Why did they let themselves get carried away by such an orgy of bloodthirsty violence, time and again over centuries?"

Yet the question of why human beings would enjoy watching female gladiators fight dwarfs by torchlight seems like the wrong question. It's a line of inquiry better fit for psychologists, moral philosophers, theologians, or movie directors - anyone with a penchant for speculating about human motives. Thankfully, Mr. Meijer soon abandons it.

Instead, he turns to describing how the games entertained. Along the way, he devotes chapters to gladiators' backgrounds, training, life expectancies, and love lives. In case there was any doubt, Mr. Meijer's careful academic research shows that, yes, gladiators had groupies.

"Gladiators had plenty of amorous adventures," Mr. Meijer writes. "They knew they were popular with women and they would arrange to meet their admirers at some quiet spot near the exercise ground."

Yet the life of the gladiator wasn't all flowers and agricola's daughters. There was plenty of pain and suffering and death. Most gladiators were not free men. Many committed suicide. Few won freedom. Most died in combat at a young age.

At one point, Mr. Meijer pulls together his research to re-create the program for a typical day at the Colosseum. According to the author, the day of games would begin with hunting and animal fights.To warm things up, a bull might fight an elephant - followed by, say,a rhinoceros versus a buffalo.Afterward,a bunch of hunters might roam through the arena picking off gazelles by the hundreds.

At midday, the games paused for an intermission, during which the crowd ate their lunches and watched public executions. Sometimes, the organizers would dress up the condemned criminals as famous villains or doomed characters from mythology - all of which lends credence to the previously unimaginable notion that perhaps halftime shows actually have improved over the past 2,000 years.

But everyone's favorite part was when the gladiators squared off in oneon-one combat. Gladiators, Mr. Meijer notes, were trained as specialists, differentiated according to their weapons and armor. He provides a taxonomy of gladiatorial types explaining, for instance, the difference between a thraex (small shield, sword like a dagger) and a retiarius (shielded left arm, trident, net).Organizers continuously would pit different specialists against each other, mixing and matching gladiators for the remainder of the afternoon.

What does this tell us about the Romans? After providing a vast array of detail about the lives of gladiators, Mr. Meijer struggles at the book's end to produce some sort of analytic framework to understand the greater meaning of the games. "I began this book by asking myself how I would have behaved if I had witnessed a gladiator show in the Colosseum," he writes. "Now, after spending nearly two years in the world of the gladiators, the same question remains. I have not found the answer."

Perhaps not. But Mr. Meijer will provide plenty of fodder for future writers, historians, and filmmakers interested in exploring the moral and spiritual implications of staging sporting events that revolved around so much death. Ultimately, the book is short on analysis and interpretation, but it brims with detail about how the games were played - no small achievement considering the gladiators fought in an era of history before the dawn of ESPN.

https://www.nysun.com/arts/gruesome-spo ... ime/24438/

Οι περισσότεροι βέβαια δεν άντεχαν να βλέπουν το σόου στο ημίχρονο και φεύγανε για φαΐ το μεσημέρι. Το καημένος ο Σενέκας που πήγαινε τακτικά σε μονομαχίες και μάλλον έπαιζε και στοίχημα(παρότι θεωρητικά τις καταδίκαζε) δεν ήξερε καν τι γίνεται στο ημίχρονο και μια φορά που έκατσε να το δει, έπαθε το σοκ της ζωής του

[Nero]

The afternoon was devoted to the main event - the combat of the gladiators. Typically, gladiators with different specialties were pitted against one another. Much like a modern boxing match, the duels were governed by strict rules and overseen by a referee to assure these rules were followed. Music provided an accompaniment with the band varying the tempo of its play according to the action in the arena. The crowd would ultimately decide whether the loser would live or die.

"...it was plain butchery."

The Roman philosopher Seneca took a dim view of gladiatorial contests and the spectacle that accompanied them. Interestingly, his criticism is not based on revulsion at the butchery he witnesses, but because the display is boring and therefore unworthy of the attention of a well-reasoned man. In a letter to a friend, he describes what he saw in the arena during the reign of Emperor Caligula:

"There is nothing so ruinous to good character as to idle away one's time at some spectacle. Vices have a way of creeping in because of the feeling of pleasure that it brings. Why do you think that I say that I personally return from shows greedier, more ambitious and more given to luxury, and I might add, with thoughts of greater cruelty and less humanity, simply because I have been among humans?

The other day, I chanced to drop in at the midday games, expecting sport and wit and some relaxation to rest men's eyes from the sight of human blood. Just the opposite was the case. Any fighting before that was as nothing; all trifles were now put aside - it was plain butchery.
The men had nothing with which to protect themselves, for their whole bodies were open to the thrust, and every thrust told. The common people prefer this to matches on level terms or request performances. Of course they do. The blade is not parried by helmet or shield, and what use is skill or defense? All these merely postpone death.

In the morning men are thrown to bears or lions, at midday to those who were previously watching them. The crowd cries for the killers to be paired with those who will kill them, and reserves the victor for yet another death. This is the only release the gladiators have. The whole business needs fire and steel to urge men on to fight. There was no escape for them. The slayer was kept fighting until he could be slain.

'Kill him! Flog him! Burn him alive!' (the spectators roared) 'Why is he such a coward? Why won't he rush on the steel? Why does he fall so meekly? Why won't he die willingly? "

Unhappy as I am, how have I deserved that I must look on such a scene as this? Do not, my Lucilius, attend the games, I pray you. Either you will be corrupted by the multitude, or, if you show disgust, be hated by them. So stay away."

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/gladiators.htm

παρότι υποτίθεται ήταν ηθικά αντίθετος, γούσταρε να παρακολουθεί ματσάκια αλλά οι εκτελέσεις στο ημίχρονο όχι μόνο ήταν βίαιες αλλά και βαρετές γιατί δεν υπήρχε ανταγωνισμός και βαριόταν. Όταν δεν έκαναν αιματηρές αναπαραστάσεις μύθων, φαίνεται ότι δίνανε σε θανατοποινίτες ένα σπαθί χωρίς εξαρτηση και τους υποχρέωναν να σφάξει ο ένας τον άλλον. Αντίθετα πολύ συχνά τα όπλα των κανονικών μονομάχων ήταν στομωμένα, καποιες φορές δηλαδή το ματς ήταν στημένο

[Ζαποτέκος]

Εμένα στις μονομαχίες μου αρέσει η ποικιλία των ειδών :

Σαμνίτης


Θραξ



Δικτυοβόλος



Μορμύλλονας



Οπλομάχος


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[zteo]

Εχω διαβασει οτι γεμιζαν το Κολοσαιο με νερο και κανανε εικονικες ναυμαχιες.Αληθευει?

[Nero]

Εμένα στις μονομαχίες μου αρέσει η ποικιλία των ειδών :

Σαμνίτης


Θραξ



Δικτυοβόλος



Μορμύλλονας



Οπλομάχος


Οι εικόνες από εδώ https://chilonas.com/2014/02/28/httpwp-mep1op6y-1i0/ όπου υπάρχουν και περισσότεροι τύποι μονομάχων. Ομοίως στην wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R ... ator_types

υπήρχανε και ειδικές κατηγορίες. Υπήρχε μια κατηγορία που ήταν αποκλειστικά gay μονομάχοι, δεν έχω ιδέα γιατί. Ο Δομιτιανός που ήταν γνωστός μαλάκας, έβαζε νάνους στην αρένα να σφάζονται με γυναίκες...τη νύχτα με φωτισμό απο πυρσούς

Εχω διαβασει οτι γεμιζαν το Κολοσαιο με νερο και κανανε εικονικες ναυμαχιες.Αληθευει?

ναι,φυσικά

[zteo]

Να υποθεσω Νερο οτι οι κωπηλατες ηταν καταδικασμενοι σε θανατο.

Αυτη ηταν μια ωραια σειρα που εδειχνε με ωμο ρεαλισμο τι γινοταν στην αρενα και με τους μονομαχους.

[Zapata+]

Να υποθεσω Νερο οτι οι κωπηλατες ηταν καταδικασμενοι σε θανατο.

Αυτη ηταν μια ωραια σειρα που εδειχνε με ωμο ρεαλισμο τι γινοταν στην αρενα και με τους μονομαχους.

Και στα όργια.